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DoobKIller [none/use name]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 年前

Libs: nuclear horror won't be so bad

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DoobKIller [none/use name]@hexbear.net to Chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 年前
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      They can only ban so many Russian athletes from sporting events before their frustration overflows

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      You mean you actually care about the world going up in an atomic hellstorm?

      But what about freedom and liberty as held to my own strange and self-destructive definition? frothingfash

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.netBanned
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        We had to irradiate the village in order to save it

    • Torenico [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      It’s kinda like “Climate Change is not so bad…”

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    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Suburban sprawl as a nuclear defense strategy is a new one to me lmao

      • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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        it was a limited consideration in the 50s, but basically bolted on the side of robert-moses-core with the odd rootcellar called “fallout shelter” as a marketing gimic in new developments.

        round about 1:07 in everyone’s favorite nuclear documentary is an example

      • FuckYourselfEndless [ze/hir]@hexbear.netBanned
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        That’s actually not that new. I think that was part of it.

        It is important to remember why cities were building highways through the fifties and sixties; why the federal government was promoting low-density suburban development and why companies were moving their corporate head offices to campuses in the country: Civil defense. One of the best defenses against nuclear bombs is sprawl; the devastation of a bomb can only cover so much area. Shawn Lawrence Otto wrote in Fool Me Twice[.]

        https://www.treehugger.com/why-sprawl-was-caused-nuclear-arms-race-and-why-matters-more-ever-today-4854403

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          • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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            oh you widened your city 50 miles? i’ll just stuff a few extra warheads in this here missile and make sure i saturate the whole thing 🥰

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              Well sure the the obscene yields do help destroy suburbs, but another reason they exist is to ensure military targets are hit. ICBMs used to be inaccurate by a couple miles, so increasing the blast radius ensured that didn’t matter. Now, ICBMs are more accurate and the world generally fields less powerful bombs.

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      That is supposed to mean “lower density cities”, I guess. So first of all, that is bad urban planning. Secondly, I don’t think that it helps so much, buildings and stuff are still there.

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        Not to mention the stuff we put in our houses and make them out of is like 20x more flammable than back then.

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          well it’s much harder to set on fire but when it does boy oh boy does it burn lol

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            I’m addicted to making everything out of oil. Even wood now needs to be made of oil

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        Destroying critical junctures for energy and transport infrastructure won’t be a problem so long as fewer people are in the immediate proximity of the blast

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      I’m sure the new Applebee’s and it’s gargantuan parking lot will certainly shield the $1 Margaritas from any significant amount of damage

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        Look if Joe Brandon is gonna doom us all, at least let me get my appletini on 💅💅💅

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      THE PARKING LOTS WILL SAVE US

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      Also incredible America-Brain

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      Maybe they’re referring to how cities act as huge heat sinks because of all the concrete?

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    “TIL Nuclear Winter is almost impossible in modern times”

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      Cockroaches don’t tolerate low temperatures, so if humanity dies, cockroaches die too (except in tropics).

      • kleeon [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        fair enough. Then the only other explanation is that this post was written by a sentient fungus

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    almost impossible

    hasan-ok-dude

    prerequisite firestorms extremely unlikely

    Lahaina survivors have entered the chat

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    This sort of nukable, mixed use urbanism is illegal to build in most US cities.

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    Why can’t more people be like Philomena Cunk and cry just knowing that nuclear bombs are still a thing?

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      It’s literally me I-was-saying

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    lol I saw someone suggest nuclear war may only kill as few as 10,000 people. What??

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      “well, you see, 99.9% of Russia’s nukes don’t work,. of course all our nukes work, but we don’t consider Russians to be ‘people’ so they aren’t added to the count”

      so-true

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        Have you considered the world deserves to die for not sufficiently supporting Ukraine in this time of need

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          Humbly requesting you add pronouns. I almost thought you were serious.

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            If you’re worth talking to, you have your pronouns on display

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        Honest to god had a nuclear engineering chud argue to my face that China would lose a hot war to the US because “they don’t spend enough to keep their nukes working”. Literal nuclear grade copium. I laughed at him

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        Reminds me of when my funny-clown-hammer - fan friend was enthusing about how American missile defense would protect us from incoming Russian ICBMs. He was saying this in the context of wishing we’d done a Highway of Death to Russian forces nearing Kiev and how we could’ve gotten away with it.

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          never mind that Russian missile/rocket tech is better that the US, and always has been lol

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      A single prehistoric nuclear bomb developed by nomads living in the steppes of the North American subcontinent killed over 100,000 people. What are these people on?

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        A single prehistoric nuclear bomb developed by nomads living in the steppes of the North American subcontinent

        peltier-laugh

        If I had to guess, they assume all nukes will only hit other silos.

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        A what? Genuinely what are you referring to with nomads using a nuke? Is this some kind of attempt to mock the amerikkkans that I’m just too dumb to get?

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          I hate explaining jokes since it’s not funny, but
          \

          spoiler

          Steppe - Hanford site where the nuclear bomb was first created and tested is a steppe.
          Nomad - Scientists traveled from all over the country to the Hanford site and returned back months or years later, which is a nomadic migratory pattern.

          I’m just using words that colonizers use to describe native cultures in a description of the Manhattan Project. Quite accurately, in fact. That’s the joke haha…

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            Oooh, I thought you meant to describe The US like how history books describe barbarian tribes fucking around and breaking everything

            Cause they’re just barbarous colonizers

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              To be fair, America is a barbarian tribe fucking around and breaking everything. The absolute lowest amount of cultural, scientific, and social output possible compared to other hegemons throughout history. Well, with the exception of the Brits but I mentioned Americans already so I’m repeating myself.

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                Yeah that’s why I liked your joke so much!

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            Ah. So it’s a healing rituals of the nacirema type thing, that I just lack the context of. Clever, unlike me

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              When a reader doesn’t understand something, the fault never lies with her but with the writer instead.

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    No amount of hubris is too much for our friends with lower yield ideologies.

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    Come on, let’s have a nuclear war. It’s not that bad. It’s just the immediate destruction of all major population centres of the developed world and fallout that will haunt survivors for generations. It’s no big deal! Stop being such a chicken about it!

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    well fuck my ass and call me a rotiserrie, here i thought the one thing i’d be guaranteed in my nuclear apocalypse would be the end of global warming!

    may as well throw all these missiles away if they can’t even cool this place down a bit after killing 8 billion people

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    The reality is: Nobody is sure, any nuclear bombing is species-wide suicide at worst, an insanely pointless gamble at best. The vague consensus seems to be it would take a maximum 100 warheads to irreversibly destroy ecology worldwide, some suggest it would only take a few modern warheads. I suggest we do all we can to not fucking find out.

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    Clean war is old propaganda.

    Hot new propaganda is clean nuclear war ahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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      Democrats clarifying they aren’t pro nuclear war, they’re pro smart nuclear war.

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    I’ve studied nuclear weapons. I’m no physicist but I’ve read pretty extensively on the after-effects.

    These people are fucking stupid

    Do they address why they have smaller yields? Because targeting systems are much more advanced. That’s it. That’s the reason. It’s like arguing it’s better to be shot in the heart with a single round rather than blasted with buckshot in the center of the chest. You’re still fucking dead.

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      I have a PhD in nuclear physics from a top 10 science guy university in the world, and I don’t believe nuclear armageddon is a problem. And I’m also not interested in discussing it (just so that no one comes with bs talking points, I’ve seen enough). I’m just saying this so that you don’t stumble on your own delusional bubble too much.

      You don’t believe in science. You believe in TV. You haven’t read a single peer reviewed paper on the matter, let alone papers that have a different point of view. So spare me your condescending bullshit.

      Now go ahead and downvote me so that you can sleep better at night after having excluded me, the infidel. Just remember that many people out there have degrees, educated and read 100 times on the matter than you and disagree with your delusions on the matter. Enjoy four faith in TV.

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        Your posting power is unmatched, comrade.

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        babe wake up new site taglines just dropped

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          chomsky-yes-honey

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        Me when the TV gods fail me: whywhywhywhywhy

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        is-this a bit?

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        Your post is totally useless and needlessly hostile.

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          It’s a copy paste from another thread where someone says he has a phd in particle physics and says this about climate change

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              Yeah

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                  I simply wouldn’t claim intimate knowledge of scientific consensus in a field I don’t study extensively

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    urban planning

    “Buh? why are you dismissing my Bookchin redditor friends as ‘satanic holocaust PMC’? Actually urban planning is a respectable academic discipline”

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    B E T T E R City Planning!!!

    jesse-wtf

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      Turns out stroad hell was a nuclear defense tactic all along

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        If the only people left in Amerikkka are gonna be the people who choose to live out in the exurbs, I think I’m okay with being vaporized

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