Correct. The US launched a coup in 2013, hand-picked officials for the new Ukrainian government (president of which was a candy mogul), the US-backed government started oppressing the native Russian-speaking populations (with help from Azov, Right Sector, etc.), the Russian-speaking populations rose up, a ceasefire was negotiated, the Ukrainians broke said ceasefire, then Russia went in.
This was all 2013-2014, since then Ukraine has been waging an artillery war against Donetsk and Lugansk. Despite stuff such as the Minsk Agreements.
Is there any specific proof of the part where Russia entered after Ukraine bombed??
I personally don’t see it as necessary, and think an analysis of which forces/interests were pushing towards the war is more important than “who fired the first bullet” anyways. That’s always seemed like a dumb way of arguing anyways, because of how often it’s actually “he punched me first (after I held this knife right next to his throat for years).” But libs do all the time so it’d be good to be able to disprove not only on my terms but theirs
Correct. The US launched a coup in 2013, hand-picked officials for the new Ukrainian government (president of which was a candy mogul), the US-backed government started oppressing the native Russian-speaking populations (with help from Azov, Right Sector, etc.), the Russian-speaking populations rose up, a ceasefire was negotiated, the Ukrainians broke said ceasefire, then Russia went in.
This was all 2013-2014, since then Ukraine has been waging an artillery war against Donetsk and Lugansk. Despite stuff such as the Minsk Agreements.
Is there any specific proof of the part where Russia entered after Ukraine bombed??
I personally don’t see it as necessary, and think an analysis of which forces/interests were pushing towards the war is more important than “who fired the first bullet” anyways. That’s always seemed like a dumb way of arguing anyways, because of how often it’s actually “he punched me first (after I held this knife right next to his throat for years).” But libs do all the time so it’d be good to be able to disprove not only on my terms but theirs