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hexaflexagonbear [he/him]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 9 months ago

Not beating the whitest woman alive allegations

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Not beating the whitest woman alive allegations

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hexaflexagonbear [he/him]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 9 months ago
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  • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    If the whole performance was a troll to generate misogynist rage for her to do research on this is the best con ever.

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      Seems like she got a lot more than misogynist rage though. Seems like a lot of people are mad at her for mocking their culture and the like. If it really is for research then I hope she has the depth and presence to understand and include this.

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        Ahh, hadn’t considered that.

    • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      This was a social experimentcentrist

    • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Big if true

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      Incredible commitment lmao

  • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    “It’s supposed to be shit” is and will almost always be a bullshit excuse in my eyes. It’s on par with “it’s just a prank, bro” and “it’s a social experiment.” Performance art is brilliant and fantastic and doing something badly isn’t that, it’s just lazy.

    You’re not deconstructing anything by doing it badly, you’re just doing it badly. If all your “deconstruction” is doing is asking “what is [concept] really?”
    Then you’re a boring person asking boring questions. Or at least 9 times outta 10 it’s boring, because I do love the ship of Theseus.

    • danisth [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      I think that “it’s supposed to be shit” can be good when it comes from an artist that has the ability to do it well. No idea if this is the case for Raygun, but it’d be interesting to me if she had proven her chops elsewhere then decided to put on a horrible act.

    • Parsani [love/loves, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      This is not what she is arguing lol

      • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        deleted by creator

    • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      In 2019, I bought a cheap guitar at a pawn shop. Over the course of the following year, I swapped out the neck, the tuners, the pickups, the controls, the jack, and the bridge. Is it still the same guitar?

      • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        You can’t play the same guitar twice

        • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          If my guitar went through the Star Trek transporter beam and had all its molecules disassembled into energy and was reassembled via the inverse process from different energy strings, is it still that guitar or is it a duplicate?

          • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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            If you cover your eyes and the guitar disappears and then you uncover them and it reappears, is it the same guitar?

            • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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              Depends on if I have slotting files or a Dremel nearby. It’s kind of an Idle Hands situation over here.

            • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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              Thats not the same as the Star Trek thing though, right? The guitar never stops existing, whereas with the star trek thing there is either a moment where it does not exist or a moment where it exists in two places at once.

              • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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                It’s a joke about lacking object permanence the way babies do

                • bubbalu [they/them]@hexbear.net
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                  good joke

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                  Oh damn, whoops

      • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        I always have an issue with the use of the words “the same” because it kinda ruins it for me, because like it objectively isn’t “the same” it’s the guitar with some things changed about it.

        Is it the guitar you picked up at a pawn shop though? Yeah it is. It is still the guitar

        • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          Is it still that guitar if I swap out the body for a new one? What if that also requires a pickguard swap? What if the tremolo cavity plate no longer fits and I need to swap that out, too?

          • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            It’s conceptually the same guitar if you think it is

            It’s the same idea of “what is a chair”? You are the one who perceives an arrangement of wood in a particular way as being a chair. Heck, you’re the one who conceptualizes a certain arrangement of organic molecules to be “wood” in the first place

          • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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            Yeah, I think so. You’re the one who makes it that guitar, so as long as it is that guitar to you, then it is. Repairs and replacements are part of the life you live with it, the travels you have together. I would say it wasn’t “that guitar” if you swapped it out wholesale. How do you feel about it?
            The answer gets more tricky if we say you’re a famous musician and when you die, society decides to keep your guitar, because then who is it that makes the guitar the guitar, and what if they disagree?
            Or that we say it breaks in two and you repair the two halves into two seperate guitars (personally I’d say the guitar wasn’t no more and you’d used it to fix up two other guitars).
            I wrote out a bunch of the hypotheticals not too long ago, I’ll see if I can find them, if you want

            • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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              I would say it wasn’t “that guitar” if you swapped it out wholesale.

              This is the joke. The body and a couple of plastic bits are all that remain from the original pawn shop find because I kept finding shit that was either broken, unusable, or in need of so much rework that it made more sense to just get new parts, resulting in an almost entirely different instrument from what I initially bought. I almost have enough bits to rebuild the original guitar and dump it off on some other sap with poor impulse control, but it probably has more use value as (carcinogenic) firewood.

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                This is the joke.

                No i understand that, but what I mean by “swapped out” is that you replace all the parts of the guitar at once.

                • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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                  Last question: do you think this line of questioning will work on my spouse?

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    Haters: nooo you must abide the extant aesthetic standards and artistic conventions ! wojak-nooo

    Her: wot if I was silly duane

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      Wow, I had no idea we had an emote of Dwayne

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    I thought this was a bit

    https://figshare.mq.edu.au/articles/thesis/Deterritorializing_gender_in_Sydney_s_breakdancing_scene_a_B-girl_s_experience_of_B-boying/19433291?file=34528847

    • Parsani [love/loves, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      34,880 views and 3,936 downloads

      She lost a breakdancing, but won in getting people to view and download her dissertation.

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    Most intellectually honest and rigorous use of delueze.

  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]@hexbear.netM
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    jesse-wtf

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    Why’s everybody wanna deterritorialize gender instead of degendering territory

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      If anything I’m gendering more territories

      Iceland: boy

      Finland: girl

      Sweden: enby

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    Damn, even breakdancing has become gentrified

    • SpookyGenderCommunist [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Fr, next thing you know, they’ll have Olympic voguing and it will be dominated by straight people 💀

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    fidel-wut

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    after seeing her paper on how the ioc and big brands are taking over breakdancing and stuff and then seeing her performances before the olympics where she is actualy p good at breakdancing i gotta say im in the camp that thinks this is a form of protest shes doing to deligitimize olympics breakdancing and the corporatization of it

    • ShareThatBread [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      I really don’t know how people are missing this point, ESPECIALLY here of all places.

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      Okay that is very cool

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        if you are interested in this especially go look at her breakdancing before the olympics she is definitely NOT bad at breakdancing

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    Deleuze-ional

    kelly

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    the whites must be stopped

    Death to America

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    Hell yeah

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    utterly talentless

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    deleted by creator

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