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plinky [he/him]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 10 months ago

🤔bad takes machine is unstoppable

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🤔bad takes machine is unstoppable

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plinky [he/him]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 10 months ago
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    I’ve literally seen a few clips of the starship troopers movie and the satire is incredibly obvious. Is media literacy really that bad now?

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      The movie is different from the book tho. The movie is practically a parody of a war movie that makes fun of Earth’s hyper-militaristic and fascist government. The aliens are insect like and more savage and are just defending themselves against some stupid humans.

      In the book, the aliens are much more humanoid and are a rival hypermilitaristic empire that is fighting against the humans, who are also hypermilitaristic, but good, because the creator was a fascist weirdo. There is also a second faction of aliens in the books who switch sides to help the humans after their capital is bombed.

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        The movie is different from the book tho.

        This is underselling it, IIRC Verhoeven claims to have read like 3 pages before saying it was garbage and that he was going to do his own thing.

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          “I stopped after two chapters because it was so boring,” says Verhoeven of his attempts to read Heinlein’s opus. “It is really quite a bad book. I asked Ed Neumeier to tell me the story because I just couldn’t read the thing. It’s a very right-wing book. And with the movie we tried, and I think at least partially succeeded, in commenting on that at the same time.[”]

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          I think Verhoeven had already another script ready and he mixed it with some stuff from the books. He also produced a 3d cartoon named Roughnecks Starship Troopers Chronicles which adds more stuff from the books.

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            Pretty sure I watched most of that cartoon series, if Verhoeven added more stuff from the books, it wasn’t obvious… unless we’re talking about aesthetics and not ideas.

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              Aesthetics, he added the skinnies and some other stuff.

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            70% is lectures on a kind of militaristic libertarian philosophy.

            That’s basically every Heinlein book. Except Stranger in a Strange Land, which is 70% “wouldn’t it be cool if I had like a harem who agreed with everything I said, also gay people are disgusting”

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            I read it a long time ago, remember the talking dogs and thinking the movie was better but not much else of note.

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      I saw it for the first time during the Bush admin and it wasn’t clear to me that it was satire. More like “I hope this is satire.”

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        That was pretty much everyone from 1997 to 2007. It wasn’t until long after it’s release thatpeopl generally learned it was satire. Which says pretty much everything about America in the90s because looking back it’s so obvious that it’s painful.

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      Most people do know it was satire (as you said it’s really obvious) but yeah, every few days in entirely unrelated place i read some dumbass that don’t get it and love it, so there must be quite a lot of them.

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        The movie is satire. The book isn’t satire, the boko is just heinlein wanking off about “good” fascism.

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          Yes, i mean the movie, obviously people with this low literacy aren’t reading a book.

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      We just had Hulk Hogan unironically mime Idiocracy at the Republican national convention.

      Whenever you wonder, “can republicans really be this dumb?” Just expect the answer to go even lower.

      So yes, of course, Starship Troopers is about society loyally defending itself from Gutians to these people.

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