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CoolerOpposide [none/use name]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish ·
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I don’t want AI that gives me time to do my chores while it does the fun things, I want AI that does the chores so I can do fun things

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I don’t want AI that gives me time to do my chores while it does the fun things, I want AI that does the chores so I can do fun things

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CoolerOpposide [none/use name]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish ·
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  • JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    This is actually not true. The use of AI media in the Chinese entertainment industry is just as pervasive and probably more so than the US, and Chinese universities and private firms are developing their own AI image/video generators at an equivalent pace to the Western firms. For example you have Chinese-developed SOTA DiT txt2img models like Pixart, Hunyuan and Lumina, and even SOTA video models like Kling. Tencent, Alibaba and Bytedance are putting out various models, optimizations and distillations in this space as well. Even back in April of last year, there were articles indicating a 70% decline in illustration jobs in sectors like video game development.

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      China banned all AI generated content without watermarks. That law went into effect January 2023.

      The 70% decline in videogame illustrator jobs number in that article is not cited, I would be interested in what time period the claim draws its data from.

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    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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      Me when the laundry robot loses a sock (I have lost a sock the last 900 times in a row that I have done laundry): THESE LAUNDRY ROBOTS FUCKING SUCK THEY CANT DO ANYTHING RIGHT 🤬🤬🤬🤬

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        Where do they go???

        • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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          If I knew then they wouldn’t be lost

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          They get turned into AI art

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      That folds it too though? I want end to end automated laundry that takes my hamper and returns a neatly folded pile. Experimental AI powered robots aside, I’m only aware of folding machines that require you to untangle and nicely lay out pieces for it to fold.

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        I want a robot that finds the bra I just rubber banded across the room and washes it.

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        Don’t fold it, ez business (aside from bed sheets)

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            they are nicer ironed and folded, idk

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        It’s much harder to debug and program complex arrays of motors and sensors that a next word generator

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    • Rx_Hawk [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Intellectual property shouldn’t exist in the first place, so I don’t really care if it’s “stolen”

      If someone invents something that can better people’s lives, everyone should be able to access it

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        In the ideal world yes. IP is a fuck but under a capitalist system I still think artists should be able to sell their work and not have it used by machine learning programs to undercut them without their consent. For industry stuff? I don’t really care but I think individual independent artists having some IP control under this absurd system is slightly better than just fucking them all over entirely.

        Edit: the copyrighting words, concepts, and techniques shit has to stop though

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          Oh I think I misunderstood the person I was replying to, I thought they were referring to Chinese IP theft in terms of industry stuff. I agree that art is a different story.

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            Oh if China is using “AI” to steal secrets, tech, IP, what have you, then uncritical support lol

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              If you misuse technology to the degree our shitty system has it should be stolen on that principle alone.

              If I bought a car solely for the purpose of driving it through a playground to smush children into jelly I deserve to have my car stolen.

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      Remember kids: AI is just very lossy image compression

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    smuglord “yeah but have you considered China bad?”

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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      xigma-male no

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        wojak-nooo : bBUTT BUttT uYgHurs! BoNG KOnG! [Insert sinophobic tirade here]

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          Love that you are so focused on defending China you randomely bring up good points against simping for China. (Simping for any country or company is cringe anyway.)

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            What ya gonna do and it? Dehumanize me and call me a bot?

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              No just wanted to mention that it’s ironic.

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                farquaad-point LIB

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                  really got me there

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    This is an uninformed take. Currently, ai is just computers. Computers can only make things on the computer. Ai is not yet robots. Robots is much harder to do than computers, and they are made to do one thing. Stuff like folding clothes is not one thing, but a whole bunch of individual ones.

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      It’s a meme not a thesis and also specifies the direction things are going, not the current state of

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      You’re taking it too literally. It’s metaphorical. No one thinks China has AI robots doing laundry any more than they think AI is physical robots in the US using a paintbrush and physical easel to do art. Well… I’m sure some burgerbrains exist who think that, but you know what I mean. (Edit: turns out I don’t know how to spell easel).

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      Why make the distinction between robots and PCs/servers? There doesn’t seem to be any fundamental difference between them that would make implementing ANN impossible.

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        Having to do things in the physical world is harder than doing it on the computer

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          Not sure how this makes using ANN in robots impossible. Surely you don’t think that electronics can’t be used in robots, do you?

          Hell, it’s been a while since I programmed LEGO robots, but I’m pretty sure you can write an ANN there using official tools. This is all just a matter of having some programmable component in a robot and enough memory.

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    Chinese firms aren’t by nature better than US ones. The difference is that China keeps its corpos on a leash and US corpos keep their government on a leash.

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      Yes xigma-male

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    China is using AI to improve life for working people, but at what cost?

    Jokes aside this was interesting to read over

    An article published by the Center for a New American Security concluded that “Chinese government officials demonstrated remarkably keen understanding of the issues surrounding AI and international security. This includes knowledge of the U.S. AI policy discussions,”

    😂

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    Wow, simping for china now are we? It’s like you’re a communist or somethin.

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      China will be communist inshallah-script

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    I want to believe

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    但是代价多少?

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      All that you’re willing to pay

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