You might attempt to pretend this is a simple disagreement over voting, but as I’ve explained several times to you already it is because you are supporting genocide, the abolition of abortion rights, war, and so many other things. You might pretend you are a friendly comrade, but your behaviour reveals you.
Brother.
Dude.
A comrade would respect my gender.
. We are both god damn communists. We are both socialists.
I grow tired of this, I refer back to the many times I’ve already explained why you do not share my ideology. As you’ve admitted yourself, you are voting for a fascist.
You gonna look me in the god damn eye and tell me I deserve death because of beliefs about voting that you don’t even fucking care about.
Once again: It matters that you support all the shitty things biden do.
I am telling you that if you stepped into my org spouting all that bullshit, you would not be walking out again.
An actual person on the other side of this phone trying to be genuine with you and everyone else here in this moment and your acting like a monster for what.
I’ve told you for what several times, you simply refuse to engage with it.
Plenty of fascists have tried being “genuine” with me, but the fact that you are nice to me matters little, especially when it is obviously disingenuine.
Because I said we were more alike than not? Because I said we are on the same side?
Because you support genocide and so many other things. Because you make demands but do not respect them. Because you’re very obviously a cretin of a debatebro. Because you do not listen, but insist to continue this farce, because you are presented with opportunities for self betterment, but chose not to take them. Because you are, no matter your words, standing on the same side as fascist genociders.
I’ll keep calling us that even if you won’t. I hope you can calm down and see me as a friend.
I am very calm. I had hoped the aggressive reaction of someone you considers a friend and a comrade might have encouraged introspection. The fact that it doesn’t once again reveals you to be a slimy little liar. You do not consider us comrades or friends, if you did, you would take the words to heart and reconsider.
The fact that you wish us to be comrades do not make us so. Feel free to fool yourself into believing it, that will only make you so much easier to treat
Apologies for not seeing the pronouns. I’m not used to checking them yet. Not used to being somewhere they are so easily presented. Definitely something to work on.
My problem at this point is that I see this as a small issue and you are presenting it as one worthy of actual fascisism. I find your position extremely accusational and unreasonable.
You say I support fascism. I give my personal stance on why I feel I cannot abstain from voting due to the reasons I laid out and you insult me like Im wearing an SS uniform. I cannot in any fucking way see that as anything other but unreasonable anger with no actual belief behind it because that’s fucking insane.
Do you really believe that? Are you genuinely really actually telling me that it’s so important that I don’t vote, that if you knew me and we were friends you would be taking a baseball bat to me over it? You would boot me from your org and kick my ass on the way out?
If so, I don’t fucking understand. Spent all this time talking about how voting is pointless , both candidates are the same, voting changes nothing and turn around and say but if you put a name down in the hopes maybe less people would get hurt that you are a card carrying Nazi scumbag.
Your right, I don’t understand you. I don’t understand why you continue threatening and talking about physical violence you wish you could enact on me. I do not consider it a way to encourage me to see your point. I ain’t a fucking Nazi. I ain’t a fucking fascist. You fucking know I ain’t and trying to gaslight me into thinking I am some kinda monster is just fucking mean. It’s manipulative. It’s disrespectful. It’s angry bad vibe bullshit for what. You convince me not to do the thing that doesn’t matter? Cool. Glad I lost sleep over this.
Maybe instead of acting aggressively in the hopes my fear of not fitting in, you talk to me like a god damn human being. Now I’m all emotional, insomniac, and just generally pissed off and it’s gonna continue. Mental state ruined. Even saying all this is just more fuel to your fire.
Whatever. If that’s your bar, that’s your bar. If you don’t want to be nice, I am not dependent on you being so. After all that I’m still going to call you comrade, because I ain’t gonna let some petty bullshit discussion make me forget my solidarity.
Not reading all of that. After first paragraph it’s obvious you’re retreading the same tired arguments.
If you were sorry, if you considered me a comrade, then you would actually have listened and not tried once again to pull the shit you’re pulling.
Fuck you.
I think I have to step away for some time too, it’s not good to tap into that threatening tone for so long. I’ll read it tomorrow maybe.
It’s funny to me though how it always ends up at “I might be wrong, but YOU HURT MY FEELINGS!!!” as if harsh words arent the least they deserve.
It’s always so funny how they belittle people they disagree with. “Hey now I’m a real human being you’re being mean to” as if I don’t know that. Real respectful of them.
I just skimmed the last of their final message and it’s really funny.
On the one hand they will now log off, work thru their emotions and then do some self-crit (it seems).
On the other, if I’d just been nice and respectful to them, they would have changed their mind (which they also have said was never going to happen) or something? Wed have had a nice discussion? It seems like treating them harshly is the only thing that has any chance of having an effect, by their own admission, but I also messed up by treating them harshly, because they’re sad now.
Who knows, I’ve been there myself.
Spent all this time talking about how voting is pointless , both candidates are the same, voting changes nothing
You stated above that you would still vote blue for the sake of your LGBTQ+ friends.
Does voting affect the well being of these peoples or does it change nothing? Make up your mind. It’s either 1 or the other, you can’t have it both ways.
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You might attempt to pretend this is a simple disagreement over voting, but as I’ve explained several times to you already it is because you are supporting genocide, the abolition of abortion rights, war, and so many other things. You might pretend you are a friendly comrade, but your behaviour reveals you.
A comrade would respect my gender.
I grow tired of this, I refer back to the many times I’ve already explained why you do not share my ideology. As you’ve admitted yourself, you are voting for a fascist.
Once again: It matters that you support all the shitty things biden do.
I am telling you that if you stepped into my org spouting all that bullshit, you would not be walking out again.
I’ve told you for what several times, you simply refuse to engage with it.
Plenty of fascists have tried being “genuine” with me, but the fact that you are nice to me matters little, especially when it is obviously disingenuine.
Because you support genocide and so many other things. Because you make demands but do not respect them. Because you’re very obviously a cretin of a debatebro. Because you do not listen, but insist to continue this farce, because you are presented with opportunities for self betterment, but chose not to take them. Because you are, no matter your words, standing on the same side as fascist genociders.
I am very calm. I had hoped the aggressive reaction of someone you considers a friend and a comrade might have encouraged introspection. The fact that it doesn’t once again reveals you to be a slimy little liar. You do not consider us comrades or friends, if you did, you would take the words to heart and reconsider.
The fact that you wish us to be comrades do not make us so. Feel free to fool yourself into believing it, that will only make you so much easier to treat
Apologies for not seeing the pronouns. I’m not used to checking them yet. Not used to being somewhere they are so easily presented. Definitely something to work on.
My problem at this point is that I see this as a small issue and you are presenting it as one worthy of actual fascisism. I find your position extremely accusational and unreasonable.
You say I support fascism. I give my personal stance on why I feel I cannot abstain from voting due to the reasons I laid out and you insult me like Im wearing an SS uniform. I cannot in any fucking way see that as anything other but unreasonable anger with no actual belief behind it because that’s fucking insane.
Do you really believe that? Are you genuinely really actually telling me that it’s so important that I don’t vote, that if you knew me and we were friends you would be taking a baseball bat to me over it? You would boot me from your org and kick my ass on the way out?
If so, I don’t fucking understand. Spent all this time talking about how voting is pointless , both candidates are the same, voting changes nothing and turn around and say but if you put a name down in the hopes maybe less people would get hurt that you are a card carrying Nazi scumbag.
Your right, I don’t understand you. I don’t understand why you continue threatening and talking about physical violence you wish you could enact on me. I do not consider it a way to encourage me to see your point. I ain’t a fucking Nazi. I ain’t a fucking fascist. You fucking know I ain’t and trying to gaslight me into thinking I am some kinda monster is just fucking mean. It’s manipulative. It’s disrespectful. It’s angry bad vibe bullshit for what. You convince me not to do the thing that doesn’t matter? Cool. Glad I lost sleep over this.
Maybe instead of acting aggressively in the hopes my fear of not fitting in, you talk to me like a god damn human being. Now I’m all emotional, insomniac, and just generally pissed off and it’s gonna continue. Mental state ruined. Even saying all this is just more fuel to your fire.
Whatever. If that’s your bar, that’s your bar. If you don’t want to be nice, I am not dependent on you being so. After all that I’m still going to call you comrade, because I ain’t gonna let some petty bullshit discussion make me forget my solidarity.
Not reading all of that. After first paragraph it’s obvious you’re retreading the same tired arguments.
If you were sorry, if you considered me a comrade, then you would actually have listened and not tried once again to pull the shit you’re pulling.
Fuck you.
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I think I have to step away for some time too, it’s not good to tap into that threatening tone for so long. I’ll read it tomorrow maybe.
It’s funny to me though how it always ends up at “I might be wrong, but YOU HURT MY FEELINGS!!!” as if harsh words arent the least they deserve.
It’s always so funny how they belittle people they disagree with. “Hey now I’m a real human being you’re being mean to” as if I don’t know that. Real respectful of them.
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I just skimmed the last of their final message and it’s really funny.
On the one hand they will now log off, work thru their emotions and then do some self-crit (it seems).
On the other, if I’d just been nice and respectful to them, they would have changed their mind (which they also have said was never going to happen) or something? Wed have had a nice discussion? It seems like treating them harshly is the only thing that has any chance of having an effect, by their own admission, but I also messed up by treating them harshly, because they’re sad now.
Who knows, I’ve been there myself.
Anyway good night, sleep tite
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You stated above that you would still vote blue for the sake of your LGBTQ+ friends.
Does voting affect the well being of these peoples or does it change nothing? Make up your mind. It’s either 1 or the other, you can’t have it both ways.