Right, so force the entire population into tents, shut down aid, shut down power, shut down water, lock up the border and let nobody through, destroy all the hospitals, plow up the cemeteries, kill the hostages.
“Look at what Hamas made me do! They killed 1000 so I’m going to kill 30,000+”
For someone to be a human shield, they have to be shielding something. Israel is using tools of genocide because it’s decided all Palestinians are Hamas.
Do you think it’s a war crime for Israel to destroy all their hospitals? Do you think it’s a war crime what happened to Hind and ten thousand other children? Or can you only find fault with one side.
Hmmm, so 1% of Gaza’s population is an entire genocide. I get it. Israel is arguably over reacting. I’m American though, a handful of terrorists from Saudi Arabia flew planes into buildings here and in response we bombed the living shit out of a different country and occupied it for 20 years.
I too believe that. Most people in this community abhorre everything hamas stands for (if you don’t, shame on you) but God forbid if Israel does anything to solve the problem of having a neighbouring country trying to kill every single citizen of you own.
Just let it be and it will resolve itself, they think.
‘We will wield disproportionate power against every village from which shots are fired on Israel, and cause immense damage and destruction. From our perspective, these are military bases… This isn’t a suggestion. This is a plan that has already been authorized.’
“HAMAS is committed to armed resistance against Israel and the creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in Israel’s place. HAMAS has been the de facto governing body in the Gaza Strip since 2007, when it ousted the Palestinian Authority from power.”
Your not much of a negotiator if your idea of negotiation is the destruction and annihilalition of the other party.
Rabbi Colonel Eyal Karim, who has been nominated as the new Chief Rabbi of the Israeli Defence Forces, is under scrutiny for comments he made about rape during wartime.
Rabbi Karim issued a clarification in 2012 regarding his comments, stating that “obviously, in our times, when the world has advanced to a level of morality in which one does not marry captives, one must not perform this act, which is also entirely against the army’s values and orders.”
Just wrap your brains around that, as you try to explain why Palestinians need to be exterminated to clear way for Israeli occupation of Gaza.
HAMAS has been the de facto governing body in the Gaza Strip since 2007
The Gaza districts have not been permitted to conduct elections since 2006. There are people in Gaza who were 16 years old when the Hamas aligned party won that election, are now 32 years old, and have never had an opportunity to voice support for an alternative party in power.
Incidentally, they are now being starved to death in a small town on Gaza’s southern most tip, because of an election result from the Bush Administration.
Imagine if a Canadian army had marched south into New Hampshire, forced every last New Hampshirite onto the border of Massachusetts, and relentlessly bombed Portsmouth for months, because the state had voted in a GOP state legislative majority in 2006.
That’s the thing. They aren’t doing anything that will truly destroy Hamas. Indiscriminate bombings and attacks do nothing. They need to send boots on the ground to root them out, while simultaneously cordoning off and protecting civilians.
Because that’s what the good guys do. They don’t fight back against terrorists by becoming bloodthirsty terrorists of their own. Palestinians are hostages by Hamas, and Israel should be trying to save them too.
I believe it’s a war crime for Hamas to use human (including children) shields, but sure. Nothing is Hamas’ fault.
Didn’t your moma ever teach you 2 war crimes don’t make clean war? What are kids learning these days on toktok smh
Right, so force the entire population into tents, shut down aid, shut down power, shut down water, lock up the border and let nobody through, destroy all the hospitals, plow up the cemeteries, kill the hostages.
“Look at what Hamas made me do! They killed 1000 so I’m going to kill 30,000+”
For someone to be a human shield, they have to be shielding something. Israel is using tools of genocide because it’s decided all Palestinians are Hamas.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/un-report-accuses-israeli-forces-of-using-palestinian-children-as-human-shields-abusing-children-in-custody/
Better just kill them all then, right? Fuck off.
Do you think it’s a war crime for Israel to destroy all their hospitals? Do you think it’s a war crime what happened to Hind and ten thousand other children? Or can you only find fault with one side.
This is true and I have great news for you- both Israel and Hamas can go to ICJ and individuals to the ICC! Sanctions for Hamas and Israel, right?
Sounds fair to me.
If anything is Hamas’s fault, then a genocide of the entire population of Gaza is acceptable.
Hmmm, so 1% of Gaza’s population is an entire genocide. I get it. Israel is arguably over reacting. I’m American though, a handful of terrorists from Saudi Arabia flew planes into buildings here and in response we bombed the living shit out of a different country and occupied it for 20 years.
Four times as many Palestinians have died in the last four months as died in the Bosnian Genocide of 1995
I too believe that. Most people in this community abhorre everything hamas stands for (if you don’t, shame on you) but God forbid if Israel does anything to solve the problem of having a neighbouring country trying to kill every single citizen of you own.
Just let it be and it will resolve itself, they think.
The core objection is the how. Why the massively disproportionate force is encouraged by the IDF as its own ‘tool of terror’ to dissuade the population of those it fights against
“HAMAS is committed to armed resistance against Israel and the creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in Israel’s place. HAMAS has been the de facto governing body in the Gaza Strip since 2007, when it ousted the Palestinian Authority from power.”
Your not much of a negotiator if your idea of negotiation is the destruction and annihilalition of the other party.
https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/rape-comment-controversy-returns-to-haunt-idf-chief-rabbi-nominee-jd7k7n33
Just wrap your brains around that, as you try to explain why Palestinians need to be exterminated to clear way for Israeli occupation of Gaza.
The Gaza districts have not been permitted to conduct elections since 2006. There are people in Gaza who were 16 years old when the Hamas aligned party won that election, are now 32 years old, and have never had an opportunity to voice support for an alternative party in power.
Incidentally, they are now being starved to death in a small town on Gaza’s southern most tip, because of an election result from the Bush Administration.
Imagine if a Canadian army had marched south into New Hampshire, forced every last New Hampshirite onto the border of Massachusetts, and relentlessly bombed Portsmouth for months, because the state had voted in a GOP state legislative majority in 2006.
The Palestinians gleefully cheering and spitting on the desecrated bodies of victims of the massacre seem pretty supportive of hamas doings.
Hamas wouldn’t exist if there was no occupation
British Mandate Period:
Antisemitism in Islam
Antisemitism in the Arab World
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948
Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928
1929 Riots from Forward and 972Mag
Shaw Commission
Peel Commission Report and Memorandum of the Arab Higher Committee 1937
1936-1939 Revolt from JVL, Britannica, MEE
Irgun and Lehi activity
What Hitler and the Grand Mufti Really Said: Time, Haaretz, WaPo
Yosef Weitz’ unofficial Transfer Committee and the JNF. Which has dispossessed Palestinians to present day. 972mag, MEE, Haaretz
1948 to 1967:
Plan Dalet and Declassified Massacres
Additional context of what was detailed in Plan C (May 1946) and Plan D (March 1948)
Arab League advocating for unified state 1948
1967 war Declassified
Israel Martial Law and Defence (Emergency) Regulations practiced in the occupied territories after 1967
How the US became the ally of Israel
UK influence
Occupation:
Occupation and 50 years of dispossession
1st Intifada AJ, PBS, Haaretz
Oslo Accords MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ
2nd Intifada AJ, Haaretz
Gaza Blockade is Occupation
Dahiya Doctrine
Arab Israelis are not equal including Education (2001 report)
Palestinian Prisoners in Israel and Military Court
Child abuse of Palestinian prisoners
Apartheid
Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)
Settler Violence, Torture and Abuse in Interrogations, No freedom of movement, and also Water control
Gaza March for Return Protest
Palestinians lack civil rights
Hamas founding charter and Revised charter 2017
History of Hamas supported by Netanyahu since 2012
AWRAD Gaza War Poll
PCPSR Public Opinion Poll Dec 2023
History of peace process
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs archived here
10 Myths of Israel
That’s the thing. They aren’t doing anything that will truly destroy Hamas. Indiscriminate bombings and attacks do nothing. They need to send boots on the ground to root them out, while simultaneously cordoning off and protecting civilians.
Because that’s what the good guys do. They don’t fight back against terrorists by becoming bloodthirsty terrorists of their own. Palestinians are hostages by Hamas, and Israel should be trying to save them too.