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GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml to Україна | Ukraine 🇺🇦@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago

Lula says Zelensky, Biden share blame for Russia war on Ukraine

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Lula says Zelensky, Biden share blame for Russia war on Ukraine

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GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml to Україна | Ukraine 🇺🇦@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago
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Brazil’s presidential front-runner Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky shares part of the blame for Russia’s invasion of his country as he believes the leader failed to negotiate more with Moscow.
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    Okay, I’ll bite this one time, Mr Trollface. 2014 Russians entered Crimea and illegally (by international law) annexed it. Then they manufactured an insurrection in the east of Ukraine. So go the fuck out of here man, Russia has everything to do with this.

    As to the whatever ‘nazi led’ bullshit you’re spewing, I won’t dignify that with a answer.

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      I guess it’s easier to think of me as a troll because the truth makes you uncomfortable. It’s scary to think that the news is lying to you, I get it. But not so deep down you know that the US propaganda is bullshit, like it always has been throughout history.

      The truth is that the US Sponsored a coup, which was led by Nazis, then Crimea had a referendum for autonomy because they ewre rightfully disgusted with what was coming for them, and then and only then did Russia provide support and protection.

      This Pew Research poll from 2014 found that 91% of Crimeans considered the referendum free and fair, and 88% felt Kyiv should accept the results.

      https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2014/05/08/despite-concerns-about-governance-ukrainians-want-to-remain-one-country/

      This was the demographic makeup of Crimea according to a US funded report. https://www.iri.org/wp-content/uploads/legacy/iri.org/2013 October 7 Survey of Crimean Public Opinion, May 16-30, 2013.pdf

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      As to the whatever ‘nazi led’ bullshit you’re spewing, I won’t dignify that with a answer.

      The leader of the coup was Right Sektor (a proud Nazi group) Dmytro Yarosh. You can check into it yourself. There’s a lot of information out there. Here’s a well sourced read for you.

      Here’s your Nazi collaborator threatening the children of Crimea.

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        Okay I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re in the victim of extreme Russian propaganda, though I doubt it.

        I won’t touch your allegations on the US sponsoring the coup. You guys can’t fathom grass roots movements leading to regime change. For you, it’s always the US boogie man.

        I did not question the ethnic makeup of Crimea, it could indeed be that it was mostly Russian leaning, but in annexing Crimea the Russians were criminals. Plus, no serious person would ever think that a referdum done under occupation by Russians is in any way fair. Russians know how to hold a fair election because they don’t believe in the concept.

        I’ll leave it at this, I’m already breaking my rule not to feed the trolls.

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